Canal+ sur TV avec Interface Commune (CI)

[JCM]

Tu sais, j'ai aussi suivi le long feuilleton décrivant les déboires des utilisateurs de Sony avec Numericable .... Ils n'ont pas l'air de bouger beaucoup. Ces utilisateurs semblent avoir eu tort de croire l'argument commercial de la présence d'un tuner cable dans ces LCD. Depuis, il me semble que Sony met sur son site une mention du type "Regardez la TV par câble grâce au tuner à câble numérique intégré (suivant les pays et avec les opérateurs pris en charge uniquement). "

[Crouille]

ok Pas de prob
Mais pour tout ceux qui on des LCD sony
j aurai besoin de vos coordonnée et du type de LCD sony
Que je communiquerai au representant Sony !

[Emeric]

on peut t'envoyer tout ça par MP Crouille

[Crouille]

Plus y en aura mieux ca sera !!!
J attend vos reponse que avec chacun expliquant le Probleme comme ca il communiquera le probleme au plus haut
Merci!!!

[Crouille]

on peut t'envoyer tout ça par MP Crouille

Pas de prob

[JCM]

Jetez un oeil sur le forum http://www.generationcable.net/ForumGC/viewtopic.php?t=9773&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

et jugez de l'engouement de Sony !!!
Oui je sais il y a 71 pages...

[Emeric]

Je l'ai déjà lu, effectivement c'est pas très encourageant

[Emeric]

Salut à tous,

Après avoir parcouru le forum de l'espace client de Canal+, voilà ce qu'un utilisateur à écrit, ça rejoint le travail que certains membres de ce site ont pu effectuer (encore merci à eux d'ailleurs )

Après examen des informations contenues dans les flux venant du tuner, les 2 canaux LCI et Eurosport n'ont pas les infos permettant le décryptage la vidéo dans le flux lui même, alors que ces infos existent dans tout les autres canaux cryptés des autres multiplex. Par contre les infos nécessaires existent pour les flux audio.
Par contre on peut trouver toutes les infos nécessaires dans les PMT (program managment table) de ces canaux, la plupart des récepteurs lisent correctement les PMT, mais Sony ne le fait pas

[Franck Morin]

Pour info, puisque ça semble en interesser certains, voici l'intégralité des informations que donne TSReader sur les chaines cryptées de la TNT.
Pour LCI et Eurosports, on ne voit pas de CA descripteur pour la porteuse audio non plus...

Program Number: 31/1028 PARIS PREMIERE

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 420 (0x01a4)
Descriptor: STD Descriptor
Leak Valid Flag: 1
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
4d 40 03 3f M@.?
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x2a
ef ff 00 10 7a c0 ff ....z..
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 800 (0x0320)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 40 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 810 (0x032a)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 42 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 900 (0x0384)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 816 (0x0330)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 08
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 702 (0x02be)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 21

Stream Type: 0x03 MPEG-1 Audio PID 430 (0x01ae)
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 800 (0x0320)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 40 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 810 (0x032a)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 42 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 900 (0x0384)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 816 (0x0330)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 08
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 702 (0x02be)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 21

Stream Type: 0x03 MPEG-1 Audio PID 431 (0x01af)
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: v.o
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 800 (0x0320)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 40 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 810 (0x032a)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 42 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 900 (0x0384)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 816 (0x0330)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 08
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 702 (0x02be)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 21

Stream Type: 0x06 Teletext/VBI PID 441 (0x01b9)
Descriptor: VBI Data Descriptor
EBU teletext Line Offset: 10 Field parity: 0
Reserved for future use (0x56)
Descriptor: Teletext Descriptor
Language: fra Type: Teletext subtitle page Magazine: 0x01 Page: 0x88
Language: fra Type: Initial Teletext page Magazine: 0x01 Page: 0x00

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data PID 440 (0x01b8)
Descriptor: Subtitling Descriptor



Program Number: 36/1029 TF6

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 520 (0x0208)
Descriptor: STD Descriptor
Leak Valid Flag: 1
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
4d 40 03 3f M@.?
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x2a
ef ff 00 10 7a c0 ff ....z..
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 811 (0x032b)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 42 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 901 (0x0385)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 818 (0x0332)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 08
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 801 (0x0321)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 40 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 703 (0x02bf)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 21

Stream Type: 0x03 MPEG-1 Audio PID 530 (0x0212)
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 811 (0x032b)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 42 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 901 (0x0385)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 818 (0x0332)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 08
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 801 (0x0321)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 40 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 703 (0x02bf)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 21

Stream Type: 0x06 Teletext/VBI PID 540 (0x021c)
Descriptor: VBI Data Descriptor
EBU teletext Line Offset: 10 Field parity: 0
Reserved for future use (0x56)
Descriptor: Teletext Descriptor
Language: fra Type: Initial Teletext page Magazine: 0x01 Page: 0x00
Language: fra Type: Teletext subtitle page Magazine: 0x00 Page: 0x88

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data PID 541 (0x021d)
Descriptor: Subtitling Descriptor



Program Number: 34/1030 AB1

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 802 (0x0322)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 02 08 18
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 902 (0x0386)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 820 (0x0334)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 08

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 620 (0x026c)
Descriptor: STD Descriptor
Leak Valid Flag: 1
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
4d 40 03 3f M@.?
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x2a
ef ff 00 10 7a c0 ff ....z..

Stream Type: 0x03 MPEG-1 Audio PID 630 (0x0276)
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined



Program Number: 4/769 CANAL+


Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 6510 (0x196e)
CA private data: 10 01 01 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 10

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 160 (0x00a0)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
0b .
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
03 00 03 00 ....
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1512 (0x05e8)
CA private data: 01 58 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 02 25 15 e5 e6 01 56 ff 00 00 04 00 00 00 08 02 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 Dolby AC3 Audio PID 82 (0x0052)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
0e .
Descriptor: AC3 Audio Descriptor
Flags: AC3 Type: True BSID: False Main ID: False ASVC: False
AC3 Type: 68
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1512 (0x05e8)
CA private data: 01 58 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 02 25 15 e5 e6 01 56 ff 00 00 04 00 00 00 08 02 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 Dolby AC3 Audio PID 83 (0x0053)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
0f .
Descriptor: AC3 Audio Descriptor
Flags: AC3 Type: True BSID: False Main ID: False ASVC: False
AC3 Type: 68
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: eng
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1512 (0x05e8)
CA private data: 01 58 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 02 25 15 e5 e6 01 56 ff 00 00 04 00 00 00 08 02 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data PID 33 (0x0021)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
1c .
Descriptor: Subtitling Descriptor



Program Number: 33/770 CANAL+ CINEMA

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 6620 (0x19dc)
CA private data: 10 01 01 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 10

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 161 (0x00a1)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
15 .
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
03 00 03 00 ....
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1622 (0x0656)
CA private data: 01 58 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 04 25 15 e6 54 01 56 ff 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 04 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 Dolby AC3 Audio PID 84 (0x0054)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
16 .
Descriptor: AC3 Audio Descriptor
Flags: AC3 Type: True BSID: False Main ID: False ASVC: False
AC3 Type: 68
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1622 (0x0656)
CA private data: 01 58 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 04 25 15 e6 54 01 56 ff 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 04 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 Dolby AC3 Audio PID 85 (0x0055)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
17 .
Descriptor: AC3 Audio Descriptor
Flags: AC3 Type: True BSID: False Main ID: False ASVC: False
AC3 Type: 68
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: eng
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1622 (0x0656)
CA private data: 01 58 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 04 25 15 e6 54 01 56 ff 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 04 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data PID 36 (0x0024)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
1c .
Descriptor: Subtitling Descriptor


Program Number: 32/771 CANAL+ SPORT

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 162 (0x00a2)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
1f .
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
03 00 03 00 ....

Stream Type: 0x06 Dolby AC3 Audio PID 88 (0x0058)
AC3: Bitrate 192 Kbps Sample Rate 48 KHz
AC3: Mode complete main Coding 2/0 L, R
AC3: Dolby Surround Mode not indicated
AC3: LFE Mode Off Dialogue normalization -27 dB
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
20
Descriptor: AC3 Audio Descriptor
Flags: AC3 Type: True BSID: False Main ID: False ASVC: False
AC3 Type: 68
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined

Stream Type: 0x06 Dolby AC3 Audio PID 89 (0x0059)
AC3: Bitrate 192 Kbps Sample Rate 48 KHz
AC3: Mode complete main Coding 2/0 L, R
AC3: Dolby Surround Mode not indicated
AC3: LFE Mode Off Dialogue normalization -27 dB
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
21 !
Descriptor: AC3 Audio Descriptor
Flags: AC3 Type: True BSID: False Main ID: False ASVC: False
AC3 Type: 68
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: eng
Audio type: undefined

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data PID 39 (0x0027)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
1c .
Descriptor: Subtitling Descriptor



Program Number: 35/772 PLANETE

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 1642 (0x066a)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 6642 (0x19f2)
CA private data: 10 01 01 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 00

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 163 (0x00a3)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
29 )
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
03 00 03 00 ....
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1641 (0x0669)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 25 15

Stream Type: 0x04 MPEG-2 Audio PID 92 (0x005c)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
2a *
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1641 (0x0669)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 25 15



Program Number: 37/773 CANAL J

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 1552 (0x0610)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 6552 (0x1998)
CA private data: 10 01 01 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 00

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 164 (0x00a4)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
33 3
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
00 00 00 00 ....
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1551 (0x060f)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 25 15

Stream Type: 0x04 MPEG-2 Audio PID 96 (0x0060)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
34 4
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1551 (0x060f)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 25 15



Program Number: 30/774 TPS STAR

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 6662 (0x1a06)
CA private data: 10 01 01 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 00

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 165 (0x00a5)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
3d =
Descriptor: ISO/IEC 13818-1 Reserved Descriptor: 0x28
00 00 00 00 ....
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1661 (0x067d)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 25 15

Stream Type: 0x04 MPEG-2 Audio PID 100 (0x0064)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
3e >
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1661 (0x067d)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 25 15

Stream Type: 0x04 MPEG-2 Audio PID 101 (0x0065)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
3f ?
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: eng
Audio type: undefined
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0xc0
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 1661 (0x067d)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 25 15

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data PID 48 (0x0030)
Descriptor: Stream Indentifier Descriptor
1c .
Descriptor: Subtitling Descriptor




Program Number: 38/1539 LCI

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 355 (0x0163)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 350 (0x015e)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 00
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 354 (0x0162)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 0c 21

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 320 (0x0140)

Stream Type: 0x04 MPEG-2 Audio PID 330 (0x014a)
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined



Program Number: 39/1540 Eurosport France

Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 19164 (0x4adc)
CA PID 455 (0x01c7)
CA private data: fe
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 1280 (0x0500) France Telecom
CA PID 450 (0x01c2)
CA private data: 10 01 00 13 01 20 14 03 03 22 00
Descriptor: CA Descriptor
CA System ID: 256 (0x0100) Canal Plus
CA PID 454 (0x01c6)
CA private data: 01 56 ff 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 0c 21

Stream Type: 0x1b H.264 Video PID 420 (0x01a4)

Stream Type: 0x04 MPEG-2 Audio PID 430 (0x01ae)
Descriptor: ISO639 Language Descriptor
Language: fra
Audio type: undefined

[afelix]

J'ai acheté une Powercam Pro d'occasion en version 3.5

je l'ai branchée avec une carte Canal+ le bouquet code 15 sur un philips 37PFL9642 tuner HD sur la TNT.

j'obtiens:

sur Canal+ et sur canal+Cinéma le son seulement et format video non supporté

sur Canal+Sport, je vois très bien le programme.

Une femme de Powercam(en fait AS à Paris) m'a dit qu'il fallait mettre à jour en HD 2.0.3 et m'a proposé de le faire.
j'ai envoyé ma carte
résultat la semaine prochaine !!!!

bon j'ai reçu ma carte en version hd 2.0.3

eh bien j'ai le son mais pas la vidéo sur les 3 chaines du bouquet
je suis déçu
je vais téléphoné à Advanced Satellite
on sait jamais